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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
1. Re: Cape Conference Clips
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
2. Prayer Request
From: Sara C Lourenco <slourenc@xxx.xxx.xx.xxx
3. Re: Admin issues
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
4. RE: Admin issues
From: Viwe Jakavula <viwe.jakavula@xxxxxxx.xx.xxx
5. Introduction
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
6. Re: Admin issues
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
7. Re: Introduction/Bangisi
From: Alvin Masarira <amasar@xxx.xxx.xx.xxx
8. Re: Admin issues
From: Alvin Masarira <amasar@xxx.xxx.xx.xxx
9. RE: SDASA Conference 1999
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
10. RE: Admin issues
From: Tshivhenga Takalani * Group <TakalaniT@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx
11. Re: Prayer Request
From: Daniel Dlongolo <daniel@4gl.co.za>
12. RE: Important Admin Issues - HOUSEKEEPING
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
_______________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:08:01 +0200
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
Subject: Re: Cape Conference Clips
Hi
I would like to have a copy, thank you.
Jongimpi
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Allen <chmin@hbc.ac.za>
To: Undisclosed Recipients <Undisclosed Recipients>
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:56 AM
Subject: [sa-sda] Cape Conference Clips
In this Issue:
SAD NEWS
PRAYER REQUESTS
LIVING LINK / LEWENDE SKAKEL
NEWS FROM LOERIE PARK
NEWS FROM GOODWOOD
NEW CONNECTION
DEI GRATIA
PREPARE / ENRICH
NEWS FROM ANDREWS
STATISTICS FROM ADVENTIST.FM
PLANNING FOR 2000
SAD NEWS
Denzil Swanepoel passed away on Friday. His funeral takes place this afternoon at 14:30. On behalf of the Cape Conference we wish to extend our condolences to Ina, Jacques, Rubert and Delia as they lay their son and brother to rest.
PRAYER REQUESTS
JOSEF BIRKENSTOCK (Ray & Dawn Jerrard, Australia)
Last night I sent out a prayer request for Pr Josef Birkenstock, asking you to pray for him and his family as he was due to have surgery for a tumour in the bowel this morning.
We just had word early this morning that the surgery will now take place Thursday, 14th October. He apparently is a lot worse than we were first informed and is very weak, having lost 12 kgs in less than a month, and not being able to eat or keep anything down. - So they are delaying surgery to try to build him up little.
LIVING LINK / LEWENDE SKAKEL (Pastor Baxen)
The second and last issue of the Living Link for the year 1999 is due. Please ask your congregation to send in news, articles, letters, photographs, etc. It would be appreciated if these could be received by 12 November 1999./
Die tweede en laaste uitgawe vir die jaar 1999 van die Lewende Skakel moet weer verskyn. Sal u asseblief u gemeente vra om nuus, artikels, briewe, foto's, ens. in te stuur; sodat ons dit asb. teen 12 November 1999 kan ontvang.
NEWS FROM LOERIE PARK, GEORGE (Urma Williams)
Pr Martin Retief was asked to broadcast a sermon on our local radio
station. This will be recorded on WEDNEDAY, 13/10 to be broadcast on
Sunday 17th - and we are starting our satelite programme on Monday 18/10!
What better timing and advertising could the Lord had for us? !
NEWS FROM GOODWOOD
Goodwood Church celebrated their 50th Anniversary this past Sabbath. We praise the Lord for the many years that this church and its members have stood as a witness to glorify God!
NEW CONNECTION (Brenda-Louise Pretorius)
We are a group of youth from the Tygerburg Church doing childrens ministry mainly with puppets. We are active among youth as well. We recently had a project where we collected books for poor countries, Ghana included. We have about 80 Kg's of literature and we would appreciate any help from folks in contributing to covering the postage costs as it gets a bit expensive. For any info or bookings etc they can contact me at Tel: 021 - 96 1855, or pret.fam@mweb.co.za
DEI GRATIA (Francois Oosthuizen)
Do you want great articles, excellent tutorials, fun stuff, cool reports, plus lots more?
Then get the latest edition of Dei Gratia.
Yes, the 2nd edition(September/October) is now available for the incredible price of only R5! Better and thicker than ever before this edition is once again filled with all your old favourites plus lots of new stuff. Order your copy today to avoid disappointment!
For ordering info phone/fax (021) 988-4663 or e-mail mailto:youthmag@hotmail.com. Alternatively you can visit our website for a free preview and ordering info at http://www.tagnet.org/deigratia.
PREPARE / ENRICH
Last Friday Pastors Peter Dalbock, Alan Parker, Jaco Martiz and Shirley Allen attended training by FAMSA (Family and Marriage Society of South Africa) so that they can be better equipped to help couples preparing for marriage or those who have already been married for two years. If you are preparing for marriage please contact them if you would like to do the Prepare/Enrich programme.
NEWS FROM ANDREWS (Pastor Marek Piotrowski)
Thank you for the the good wishes. I did pass and my diss was accepted with some corrections. I found the 2 hour session quite gruelling--but it is now something of the past! I will march next June.
STATISTICS FROM ADVENTIST.FM (Errol van Eck)
Statistics show rapid growth
Statistics just released show the ratio of Adventists to non-Adventists is
dropping sharply world-wide. In 1994 there was one Adventist for every 669
people on the planet. Five years later, according to the latest statistics,
this figure had dropped to one in 583. The statistics also show a dramatic
increase in the number of baptisms per hour. Five years ago there were 71.8
baptisms and confessions of faith every hour. Last year, this had increased
dramatically to 93.4 every hour. Projections suggest that this year we are
probably having about 100 baptisms every hour.
Adventist TV in South America
Adventist TV programs are now being broadcast 24 hours a day in Peru, Argentina
and Columbia. The programs are relayed via satellite to land based stations
mainly in small country areas.
Chinese hire online evangelist
jwash@pacific.net.hk The Chinese Union Mission has hired an Internet evangelist
to cope with the large response to its new website. In the first two months
online, its new website has had 8000 visitors with 4-5 prayer requests and
Bible Study requests per day. "The potential is increadible for online
evangelism," says John Ash, the Chinese Union Missions Communication Director.
"Where in 1995 there was virtually no private internet use in mainland China,
by the end of this year there will be 12 million Internet users." The new
internet evangelist will respond personally to mail and connect interests with
a local church in the reader's area. The website is called Village of Hope and
Blessing -- www.vohc.com.
Entered September 13, 1999
PLANNING FOR 2000
If you would like a copy of a year planner on MS Word that has all the special days on the SDA Calendar and important dates please e-mail me for a copy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shirley Allen
Cape Conference
Director of Youth, Children's Ministries, Sabbath School, Personal Ministries and Women's Ministries
PO Box 279
Somerset West
7129
"Remember your Creator during your youth: when all possibilities lie open before you and you can offer all your strength intact for his service. "
Telephone: 021 852 1140
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:49:07 +0000 (/etc/localtime)
From: Sara C Lourenco <slourenc@stu.hbc.ac.za>
Subject: Prayer Request
Hi...I haven't really used this service very much since I signed up as a
member but I really would like to put in a prayer request that I want to
ask you to pray for earnestly and seriously. My dad is out of work at the
moment and it is causing a lot of stress in our family. I have been
praying a lot already but the other night I started reading Roger Morneu's
book about Incredible answers to prayer again and I was reminded of the
power of Intercessory Prayer. Please keep him and my family in your
prayers. I really believe that presenting our situation in prayer before
Jesus will bring about great changes and transformations in all of
our lives. Please pray that the Lord will touch my father's life in a
very special and meaningful way and that he will find a job that will put
Him in a position to glorify and bring praises to Him. I was just very
impressed this morning to write to all of you and ask you to do this for
us. Please join your prayers with ours.
Thank you for your faithfulness and help.
Yours in Christ
Sara
_______________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:33:10 +0200
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Re: Admin issues
Friends
Jongimpi is my name, well I did not choose the name, it was given to me, I
am told that the name has something to do with war, "impi" the first part,
"Jonga", would mean look or behold. I have tried to look for a religious
significance for the name, I havenot been successful. Do not worry I am a
very nice guy and I like to laugh a lot, especially at myself, you see
sometimes I take myself too seriously.
I am married with two boys, 8 and 6, they will soon be turning 9 and 7, in
few weeks time, Bulumko and Sihle. My wife's name is Nomthandazo, who
orginally hails from Natalspruits, by the way I come from Cape town. We are
currently stationed here in Port Elizabeth, where I am working as one of the
pastors of the Southern Hope Conference. I am approaching 40 years, I am
saying this so that when I make comments, you must not disagree with me, I
am old and experienced especially in my ignorance.
That is all about me and of course I Love Jesus and my passion is to be
where He wants me to be and to know Him better.
Cheers
-----Original Message-----
From: Mashudu Ravhengani <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 4:20 PM
Subject: [sa-sda] Admin issues
>From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
>
>Topics for discussion
>Here is a list of topics that I have received so far
>Salvation (all the phases) and
>Nature of Christ;
>Gospel Commission
>Christian church in general;
>History of Adventism;
>Eschatology;
>Crisis in Adventism
>Southern Africa Church History
>Power in the church
>Prayer and Fasting
>
>This is how we are going to do this.
>I would like to request you to send me three topics that you would like us
to discuss, they can be one of those listed above or they can be new topics.
I will place these topics in a spreadsheet and at the end of the
week/session I will pick the most popular ones (not always) for discussion
in the following session. That's called demo-crazy.
>
>Important Note:
>Next week is an open week: We can discuss anything and everything that you
want.
>I would us to focus on the following two items:
>
> 1. Introducing ourselves
> There are many of our members who didn't introduce themselves when they
joined and some of us have been part of this discussion group from its
inception about a year and half ago so we never felt the need to
re-introduce ourselves.
>Tell us you name, where you live which church you attend, where did you
live before/or where you were born etc. Tell us as much about yourself as
you like.
>If we are really one family, we should know each other.
>This will be a time to enquire about friends and relatives. It will be the
time to network, so that next time you find yourself in PE, you can go and
fellowship at Pastor Papu's church, or when you find yourself in New Jersey
of New York City and stop by and pay me a visit etc.
>SA-SDA should be our second home church, when you have a problem you should
know that you have a big cyber-family, you can told to the whole family
about it or you can send someone a personal mail. We can only do that when
we know each other.
>
> 2. Personal testimonies (how did you come to meet the Lord, and what has
He done for you lately?)
> Personal testimonies are very powerful for they bring the gospel to our
day to day life. They testify that our religion is not only historical, but
it is present and continues religion. If He can do it for me, surely He can
also do it for you.
>
>Problem with to many mails? Or you are going to vacation and you don't want
fill up the mail server?
>Send me a mail at masabatha@yahoo.com we can make an arrangement.
>I can arrange that you either receive one digest mail a day or temporarily
block your email address from receiving our mails.
>
>Go tell it to the mountains, that Jesus is Lord!
>MJ Ravhengani
>SA-SDA/Masabatha Online
>www.masabatha.org
>
>>The King is even at the door!
>====
>To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
>To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
>To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:12:48 +0100
From: Viwe Jakavula <viwe.jakavula@vodacom.co.za>
Subject: RE: Admin issues
Thanks for the introduction Pastor - may God richly bless you.
In His Eyes Arms We Live for His Glory!!!!!!!!!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jongimpi Papu [SMTP:j.d.papu@mweb.co.za]
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:33 AM
> To: sa-sda@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [sa-sda] Admin issues
>
> From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@mweb.co.za>
>
> Friends
> Jongimpi is my name, well I did not choose the name, it was given to me, I
> am told that the name has something to do with war, "impi" the first part,
> "Jonga", would mean look or behold. I have tried to look for a religious
> significance for the name, I havenot been successful. Do not worry I am a
> very nice guy and I like to laugh a lot, especially at myself, you see
> sometimes I take myself too seriously.
>
> I am married with two boys, 8 and 6, they will soon be turning 9 and 7, in
> few weeks time, Bulumko and Sihle. My wife's name is Nomthandazo, who
> orginally hails from Natalspruits, by the way I come from Cape town. We
> are
> currently stationed here in Port Elizabeth, where I am working as one of
> the
> pastors of the Southern Hope Conference. I am approaching 40 years, I am
> saying this so that when I make comments, you must not disagree with me, I
> am old and experienced especially in my ignorance.
>
> That is all about me and of course I Love Jesus and my passion is to be
> where He wants me to be and to know Him better.
>
> Cheers
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mashudu Ravhengani <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 4:20 PM
> Subject: [sa-sda] Admin issues
>
>
> >From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> >
> >Topics for discussion
> >Here is a list of topics that I have received so far
> >Salvation (all the phases) and
> >Nature of Christ;
> >Gospel Commission
> >Christian church in general;
> >History of Adventism;
> >Eschatology;
> >Crisis in Adventism
> >Southern Africa Church History
> >Power in the church
> >Prayer and Fasting
> >
> >This is how we are going to do this.
> >I would like to request you to send me three topics that you would like
> us
> to discuss, they can be one of those listed above or they can be new
> topics.
> I will place these topics in a spreadsheet and at the end of the
> week/session I will pick the most popular ones (not always) for discussion
> in the following session. That's called demo-crazy.
> >
> >Important Note:
> >Next week is an open week: We can discuss anything and everything that
> you
> want.
> >I would us to focus on the following two items:
> >
> > 1. Introducing ourselves
> > There are many of our members who didn't introduce themselves when they
> joined and some of us have been part of this discussion group from its
> inception about a year and half ago so we never felt the need to
> re-introduce ourselves.
> >Tell us you name, where you live which church you attend, where did you
> live before/or where you were born etc. Tell us as much about yourself as
> you like.
> >If we are really one family, we should know each other.
> >This will be a time to enquire about friends and relatives. It will be
> the
> time to network, so that next time you find yourself in PE, you can go and
> fellowship at Pastor Papu's church, or when you find yourself in New
> Jersey
> of New York City and stop by and pay me a visit etc.
> >SA-SDA should be our second home church, when you have a problem you
> should
> know that you have a big cyber-family, you can told to the whole family
> about it or you can send someone a personal mail. We can only do that when
> we know each other.
> >
> > 2. Personal testimonies (how did you come to meet the Lord, and what has
> He done for you lately?)
> > Personal testimonies are very powerful for they bring the gospel to our
> day to day life. They testify that our religion is not only historical,
> but
> it is present and continues religion. If He can do it for me, surely He
> can
> also do it for you.
> >
> >Problem with to many mails? Or you are going to vacation and you don't
> want
> fill up the mail server?
> >Send me a mail at masabatha@yahoo.com we can make an arrangement.
> >I can arrange that you either receive one digest mail a day or
> temporarily
> block your email address from receiving our mails.
> >
> >Go tell it to the mountains, that Jesus is Lord!
> >MJ Ravhengani
> >SA-SDA/Masabatha Online
> >www.masabatha.org
> >
> >>The King is even at the door!
> >====
> >To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
> >To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
> >To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>
> > The King is even at the door!
> ====
> To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
> To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
> To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:36:27 +0200
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@anglogold.com>
Subject: Introduction
Friends,
My name is Nikelo Bangisi. It was given to me after the first two children
who would have been my big brother and sister passed away. So my parents
were giving me away as a gift to God. By the way they were not Seventh-day
Adventists yet. Hence the belief to give me away to God in case death was to
sting on me as well. Fortunately I lived and I wish to thank God for life.
I am married to Belinda and we have 4 children. I am privileged to work as
President of the Seventh-day Adventist Students' Association (SDASA) as well
as a church elder in my local church. Everybody is welcome to visit us much
we enjoy visiting people in distant places of our beautiful South Africa.
I work as a Commercial Officer for Anglogold, the largest gold mining
company in the world. I negotiate contracts of supply and delivery to all
our mines.
This discussion forum has been brought joyful experiences in my life since I
joined it. May we continue to discuss issues as lively as we can.
God bless you all.
Nick
_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:42:42 +0200
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Re: Admin issues
Jerry
Is it possible to have all the introduction for all the members stored in
one file, so that with all our new members we can direct them to the
relevant site. I would also like to know how big the family is, one of
these days, who knows, we might just organise one big gathering, or do we
have to meet in heaven?, what if others don't make it(not serious).
Jongimpi
-----Original Message-----
From: Mashudu Ravhengani <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 4:20 PM
Subject: [sa-sda] Admin issues
>From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
>
>Topics for discussion
>Here is a list of topics that I have received so far
>Salvation (all the phases) and
>Nature of Christ;
>Gospel Commission
>Christian church in general;
>History of Adventism;
>Eschatology;
>Crisis in Adventism
>Southern Africa Church History
>Power in the church
>Prayer and Fasting
>
>This is how we are going to do this.
>I would like to request you to send me three topics that you would like us
to discuss, they can be one of those listed above or they can be new topics.
I will place these topics in a spreadsheet and at the end of the
week/session I will pick the most popular ones (not always) for discussion
in the following session. That's called demo-crazy.
>
>Important Note:
>Next week is an open week: We can discuss anything and everything that you
want.
>I would us to focus on the following two items:
>
> 1. Introducing ourselves
> There are many of our members who didn't introduce themselves when they
joined and some of us have been part of this discussion group from its
inception about a year and half ago so we never felt the need to
re-introduce ourselves.
>Tell us you name, where you live which church you attend, where did you
live before/or where you were born etc. Tell us as much about yourself as
you like.
>If we are really one family, we should know each other.
>This will be a time to enquire about friends and relatives. It will be the
time to network, so that next time you find yourself in PE, you can go and
fellowship at Pastor Papu's church, or when you find yourself in New Jersey
of New York City and stop by and pay me a visit etc.
>SA-SDA should be our second home church, when you have a problem you should
know that you have a big cyber-family, you can told to the whole family
about it or you can send someone a personal mail. We can only do that when
we know each other.
>
> 2. Personal testimonies (how did you come to meet the Lord, and what has
He done for you lately?)
> Personal testimonies are very powerful for they bring the gospel to our
day to day life. They testify that our religion is not only historical, but
it is present and continues religion. If He can do it for me, surely He can
also do it for you.
>
>Problem with to many mails? Or you are going to vacation and you don't want
fill up the mail server?
>Send me a mail at masabatha@yahoo.com we can make an arrangement.
>I can arrange that you either receive one digest mail a day or temporarily
block your email address from receiving our mails.
>
>Go tell it to the mountains, that Jesus is Lord!
>MJ Ravhengani
>SA-SDA/Masabatha Online
>www.masabatha.org
>
>>The King is even at the door!
>====
>To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
>To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
>To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:56:32 +0200
From: Alvin Masarira <amasar@eng.uct.ac.za>
Subject: Re: Introduction/Bangisi
Hie Nick,
"Bangisi, Nikelo" wrote:
> I am privileged to work as
> President of the Seventh-day Adventist Students' Association (SDASA) as well
> as a church elder in my local church. Everybody is welcome to visit us much
> we enjoy visiting people in distant places of our beautiful South Africa.
>
Thanks for the introduction. Unfortunately you did not say in which part of the
nation (city/town) you are in so that next time some of us happen to be there we
can visit (we take your invitation seriously you know).
Another issue is the SDASA thing. I had "rumours" that you were planning to hold
SDASA Conference at the end of this year in Cape Town. Is that true? If so could
you publicise the details (dates, location, program, costs etc.)
> I work as a Commercial Officer for Anglogold, the largest gold mining
> company in the world. I negotiate contracts of supply and delivery to all
> our mines.
>
With the gold price on the world market on the rise again, you guys might be in
for a "golden" future.
God bless,
Alvin.
_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:04:03 +0200
From: Alvin Masarira <amasar@eng.uct.ac.za>
Subject: Re: Admin issues
Hie sa-sda,
Jongimpi Papu wrote:
> I would also like to know how big the family is, one of
> these days, who knows, we might just organise one big gathering, or do we
> have to meet in heaven?, what if others don't make it(not serious).
Absolutely good idea Jongimpi. The Cyber-Family needs to meet someday. I also
wish to link this up with my proposal for us laymen and laywomen who have an
idea about the internet to assist the church in this country (Union,
Conferences, local churches, institutions) develope websites and have them
coordinated.
Jerry, could you please one way or the other pass on the information and tools
on webdesign which you said you have. How you will do it, I'll leave that up to
you.
Greetings from the 70% cloud-covered Cape Town.
Alvin.
_______________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:11:54 +0200
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@anglogold.com>
Subject: RE: SDASA Conference 1999
Alvin,
My church is in Kagiso, West of Johannesburg. The SDASA conference will not
be in Cape Town. It will be at the University of the North in Pietersburg
form 23 December 1999 to 2 January 2000. The conference fee is R370,00. The
guests are Pastors Kubheka (Mafeking) and Ruguri(EAD). We are still securing
the last person who will handle Daniel and the Revelation during conference.
I hope this suffices for now.
God bless you.
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Alvin Masarira [mailto:amasar@eng.uct.ac.za]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 11:57 AM
To: sa-sda@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [sa-sda] Introduction/Bangisi
From: Alvin Masarira <amasar@eng.uct.ac.za>
Hie Nick,
"Bangisi, Nikelo" wrote:
> I am privileged to work as
> President of the Seventh-day Adventist Students' Association (SDASA) as
well
> as a church elder in my local church. Everybody is welcome to visit us
much
> we enjoy visiting people in distant places of our beautiful South Africa.
>
Thanks for the introduction. Unfortunately you did not say in which part of
the
nation (city/town) you are in so that next time some of us happen to be
there we
can visit (we take your invitation seriously you know).
Another issue is the SDASA thing. I had "rumours" that you were planning to
hold
SDASA Conference at the end of this year in Cape Town. Is that true? If so
could
you publicise the details (dates, location, program, costs etc.)
> I work as a Commercial Officer for Anglogold, the largest gold mining
> company in the world. I negotiate contracts of supply and delivery to all
> our mines.
>
With the gold price on the world market on the rise again, you guys might be
in
for a "golden" future.
God bless,
Alvin.
The King is even at the door!
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:34:21 +0200
From: Tshivhenga Takalani * Group <TakalaniT@Transnet.co.za>
Subject: RE: Admin issues
They call me Takalani, My father had a name for me that he loved so much and
there is no need for the members to know it.
I was born in Sophiatown, live in Diepkloof and to many places in SA. I
studied in Diepkloof, Venda and Cape Town.
I am a lay member in Kagiso Church not far away from Krugersdorp, I am
active in the District work as well. Married to Matlakala we are blessed
with five children who are still in love with the Lord. Their ages ranges
between 14 to 24.
The lord is good and sure to keep His promises
He is coming
Takalani
-----Original Message-----
From: Jongimpi Papu [mailto:j.d.papu@mweb.co.za]
Sent: 18 October 1999 10:33
To: sa-sda@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [sa-sda] Admin issues
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@mweb.co.za>
Friends
Jongimpi is my name, well I did not choose the name, it was given to me, I
am told that the name has something to do with war, "impi" the first part,
"Jonga", would mean look or behold. I have tried to look for a religious
significance for the name, I havenot been successful. Do not worry I am a
very nice guy and I like to laugh a lot, especially at myself, you see
sometimes I take myself too seriously.
I am married with two boys, 8 and 6, they will soon be turning 9 and 7, in
few weeks time, Bulumko and Sihle. My wife's name is Nomthandazo, who
orginally hails from Natalspruits, by the way I come from Cape town. We are
currently stationed here in Port Elizabeth, where I am working as one of the
pastors of the Southern Hope Conference. I am approaching 40 years, I am
saying this so that when I make comments, you must not disagree with me, I
am old and experienced especially in my ignorance.
That is all about me and of course I Love Jesus and my passion is to be
where He wants me to be and to know Him better.
Cheers
-----Original Message-----
From: Mashudu Ravhengani <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 4:20 PM
Subject: [sa-sda] Admin issues
>From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
>
>Topics for discussion
>Here is a list of topics that I have received so far
>Salvation (all the phases) and
>Nature of Christ;
>Gospel Commission
>Christian church in general;
>History of Adventism;
>Eschatology;
>Crisis in Adventism
>Southern Africa Church History
>Power in the church
>Prayer and Fasting
>
>This is how we are going to do this.
>I would like to request you to send me three topics that you would like us
to discuss, they can be one of those listed above or they can be new topics.
I will place these topics in a spreadsheet and at the end of the
week/session I will pick the most popular ones (not always) for discussion
in the following session. That's called demo-crazy.
>
>Important Note:
>Next week is an open week: We can discuss anything and everything that you
want.
>I would us to focus on the following two items:
>
> 1. Introducing ourselves
> There are many of our members who didn't introduce themselves when they
joined and some of us have been part of this discussion group from its
inception about a year and half ago so we never felt the need to
re-introduce ourselves.
>Tell us you name, where you live which church you attend, where did you
live before/or where you were born etc. Tell us as much about yourself as
you like.
>If we are really one family, we should know each other.
>This will be a time to enquire about friends and relatives. It will be the
time to network, so that next time you find yourself in PE, you can go and
fellowship at Pastor Papu's church, or when you find yourself in New Jersey
of New York City and stop by and pay me a visit etc.
>SA-SDA should be our second home church, when you have a problem you should
know that you have a big cyber-family, you can told to the whole family
about it or you can send someone a personal mail. We can only do that when
we know each other.
>
> 2. Personal testimonies (how did you come to meet the Lord, and what has
He done for you lately?)
> Personal testimonies are very powerful for they bring the gospel to our
day to day life. They testify that our religion is not only historical, but
it is present and continues religion. If He can do it for me, surely He can
also do it for you.
>
>Problem with to many mails? Or you are going to vacation and you don't want
fill up the mail server?
>Send me a mail at masabatha@yahoo.com we can make an arrangement.
>I can arrange that you either receive one digest mail a day or temporarily
block your email address from receiving our mails.
>
>Go tell it to the mountains, that Jesus is Lord!
>MJ Ravhengani
>SA-SDA/Masabatha Online
>www.masabatha.org
>
>>The King is even at the door!
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:46:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: Daniel Dlongolo <daniel@4gl.co.za>
Subject: Re: Prayer Request
Sara,
I'm sorry to hear these sad news. Be assured that the Lord is watching
with great interest His children. I believe that your difficulties will
soon come to pass, Hold On A little Longer.
We will remember your family in our prayers.
May He give you strength to hold on.
Your brother in Christ
Daniel
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Sara C Lourenco wrote:
> From: Sara C Lourenco <slourenc@stu.hbc.ac.za>
>
> Hi...I haven't really used this service very much since I signed up as a
> member but I really would like to put in a prayer request that I want to
> ask you to pray for earnestly and seriously. My dad is out of work at the
> moment and it is causing a lot of stress in our family. I have been
> praying a lot already but the other night I started reading Roger Morneu's
> book about Incredible answers to prayer again and I was reminded of the
> power of Intercessory Prayer. Please keep him and my family in your
> prayers. I really believe that presenting our situation in prayer before
> Jesus will bring about great changes and transformations in all of
> our lives. Please pray that the Lord will touch my father's life in a
> very special and meaningful way and that he will find a job that will put
> Him in a position to glorify and bring praises to Him. I was just very
> impressed this morning to write to all of you and ask you to do this for
> us. Please join your prayers with ours.
>
> Thank you for your faithfulness and help.
>
> Yours in Christ
> Sara
>
> > The King is even at the door!
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:57:06 +0200
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@anglogold.com>
Subject: RE: Important Admin Issues - HOUSEKEEPING
Alvin,
Incidentally I discovered that the Transvaal Conference will hold a special
session sometime in the hear future to discuss fully the possibility of
uniting with the TOC. Therefore I agree this topic must return again, even
if it was extensively discussed in the past. We will not be doing justice to
the topic should we drop it. I have a newspaper article in my possession
about the Cape Conference people failing to merge due to lack additional 5%
needed to make 75% in order to merge. It was a pathetic thing for us to be
publicised like that in the newspaper. Of course, newspapers publish bad
things, whereas there are so many good things that happened about our
church.
Cheers
-----Original Message-----
From: Alvin Masarira [mailto:amasar@eng.uct.ac.za]
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 11:47 AM
To: sa-sda@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [sa-sda] Important Admin Issues - HOUSEKEEPING
From: Alvin Masarira <amasar@eng.uct.ac.za>
Hie sa-sda,
Another topic which should never go off the table is
"Human relationships among Adventists in South Africa" This would include
racial, tribal/ethnic raltionships and the (still live and kicking) issue of
2 SDA conferences in the Cape. As long as this "problem" is not resolved it
should always be an issue which we must all publicly and openly discuss. No
short-cuts.
Alvin.
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