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There are 11 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
1. The thief in the night experience
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
2. FW: speed kills!!
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
3. Admin
From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@xxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Admin
From: "Lulama R. Zantsi" <wels124@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
5. FW: Sharing
From: Viwe Jakavula <viwe.jakavula@xxxxxxx.xx.xxx
6. Re: Cyber Evangelism
From: The Easton's <s.easton@xxxx.xxxx
7. Re: God's family = Church?
From: The Easton's <s.easton@xxxx.xxxx
8. Re: FW: speed kills!!
From: "Adv. Boyce Mkhize" <bhizaman@xxx.xx.xxx
9. Re: God's family = Church?
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
10. Re: Cyber Evangelism
From: "Lungani Mfeka" <MfekaL@xxxxxx.xx.xxx
11. Re: God's family = Church?
From: Daniel Dlongolo <daniel@xxx.xx.xxx
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 14:28:27 +0200
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
Subject: The thief in the night experience
My Friends
Allow me to share some few thoughts with you, as always you are welcome to disagree.
Christ warned that His return will be like a thief in the night. The question is, is it possible for Seventh-day Adventists to experience the thief in the night unreadiness for Christ's return? An average Adventist knows about 666(hopefully), the death decree, plagues, Armageddon, how could the coming of Christ ever surprise him?
What we have neglected is that,to be ready for the second coming of Christ we must be ready for the second coming of the Holy Spirit, (Latter rain). This is where most adventists are going to be caught unawares. The double gathering that we often talk about, that is those under the banner of the devil and those under Christ has nothing to do with the time to be ready. The angel of Rev. 18 calls God's people out of Babylon, people who have accepted the Holy Spirit, whose names are written from the Lamb's book of life. They come out and begin to keep the Sabbath, but at the same time those who have not accepted the Holy Spirit, though they are Adventists, will come out of the church, for to them the church will be Babylon, of course those who have accepted Christ will remain . They have lived a life of hating the truth, now they have the chance to hate the church and denounce it as fallen. To such Christ will come like a thief in the night.
The time to prepare is now, not tomorrow. The time of Trouble is not the time to prepare but to stand on the foundation you have built over the years.
Ready or not HE is coming
Jongimpi
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:40:03 +0200
From: "Bangisi, Nikelo" <NBangisi@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Subject: FW: speed kills!!
-----Original Message-----
From: belinda.bongisi@basf-s-africa.co.za
[mailto:belinda.bongisi@basf-s-africa.co.za]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:40 PM
To: nbangisi@corp.anglogold.com
Subject: s
Speed
(See attached file: SPEED.pps)
Enjoy the singing
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:45:24 -0400
From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@xxxxx.xxxx
Subject: Admin
All,
Housekeeping
There are some concerns that have been raised about the nature of our discussion and the direction that we are following. What are the aims and the objectives of our discussions? What are we hoping to achieve?
I am in the process of making this assessment and hoping to come out with some guidelines.
I have already received input from some of you. Please send all your suggestions to masabatha@yahoo.com or ravhenmj@umdnj.edu before Tuesday next week. I am hoping to bring this issue into discussion before the end of next week.
Cyber Evangelism.
Please send the email addresses of people who are interested in receiving our homilies to masabatha@yahoo.com. (So far, I have received 0 emails addresses)
We plan to start this outreach program next week Friday even if we have only one recipient.
The gospel must be preached, even to one person!
Sound the trumpet, Jesus is coming again!
MJ Ravhengani
SA-SDA/Masabatha Online
www.masabatha.org
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:26:25 +2
From: "Lulama R. Zantsi" <wels124@welspta.pwv.gov.za>
Subject: Re: Admin
Malozwe,
Amongst other concerns, I personally query the utilization of this
for the purpose of making announcements like those of ANN which are
easily obtainable.
Secondly, I suggest that contributors including me, submit
well-researched, fleshy and detailed papers meant to uplift us
spiritually and help sharpen our focus in times like these. This must
be co-ordinated by the Site Manager. One thoroughly discussed topic
may do for a week and not this haphazard hit-and-run approach. Maybe,
one's continued membership may be linked to the inputs received or
something like that. Even our God likes decency and order and
definitely NOT confusion.
Jesus is the Altogether-lovely.
To know Him and to make Him known. God Bless.
Lulama
this humble learner
Mr Lulama R. Zantsi
P.O. Box 11536; THE TRAMSHED; 0126
Republic of South Africa
Tel. (27-12) 312-7675
Fax. (27-12) 312-7719
Cell. 083 764 6060
There's time to say something; there's time to say nothing BUT
there's no time to say anything. Therefore, say the right words
at the right time and at the right place.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:13:05 +0100
From: Viwe Jakavula <viwe.jakavula@vodacom.co.za>
Subject: FW: Sharing
> <<THANKFUL.pps>> <<Pain.pps>>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:27:37 -0600
From: The Easton's <s.easton@home.com>
Subject: Re: Cyber Evangelism
Jongimpi,
I have struggled with this question for many years, and I used to believe as you do now but I have to disagree with what you have said. We can have assurance that we are disciples of Christ. In the
bible there are numerous verses, I will list a few and if you would like more email me privately:
Acts 16: 30-31: He brought them out and asked," Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They replied," Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved - you and your household."
Romans 10: 9- 14: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, YOU WILL BE SAVED. For it is with your heart that you believe and
are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."
Romans 10:13 : for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
Romans 7:25 -8:3 So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's Law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. Therefore there is now no condendemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of Life set me free from the law of sin and death.
Ephesians 2: 8-9: For it is by grace you have been saved, through FAITH - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works...
I have always been aware of these verses, but is salvation so simple? yes
Can I believe what the Bible says and have FAITH that I am a Disciple of God? yes. Will I always obey God? no because I am not perfect and I will never be, but that is why Jesus died.. so he could
forgive us of all the sin that we will do. (John 3:16) and it is no longer what we DO but if we believe. If we are not following his leading but still are believer, than God will show us the right way
to go. Like Jonah, He outright disobeyed God.. but God didn't let him go that easily and I think That sometimes God allows us to go our oun way for a time so that we can realize for ourselves how
inadaquate we really are. I also believe that once you are a disciple of God that it isn't that simple to turn away... like jonah.. and in the end... God gently leads us back to him. We are justified
by faith.. not of works. and we can never be good enough or do enough for God.. he has already accepted us by dying for us.. all he asks is to love him.
Hope to hear your comments on this one!
San
Jongimpi Papu wrote:
> From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@mweb.co.za>
>
> Jerry
> You asked, "Is it possible for a person to be a disciple of Christ and not
> follow his leading"? Let me answer your question in two ways.
>
> First of all I think it is possible for a person to say that he is a
> disciple of Christ and yet refuse to follow him. In this case it is not
> what a person says but what he does that is a real answer to the question.
>
> Secondly, a person can say he is a disciple of Christ, we may believe him,
> because of what we see him do, things like preaching, leading in the church
> and many other good things. He may also believe that he is a disciple of
> Christ, but Christ can have a different evaluation of the same. In Matt.
> 7: 21-23, that seems to be the issue. The operative word here is
> deception, person who is deceived does not know that he is deceived, we read
> that at the end many will be deceived into thinking that they are
> worshipping God only to find out that they are worshipping the beast. In
> fact even the beast might think that he is worshipping God, for he also is
> deceived.
>
> Who then is a disciple of Christ? Only Christ knows!!!
>
> If we love one another the whole world will know...
>
> Jongimpi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mashudu Ravhengani <ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [sa-sda] Cyber Evangelism
>
> >From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> >
> >Greetings,
> >
> >Apart from the few positive comments, I have not received any response to
> this suggestion. I suppose there are many ways we can reach-out to the lost,
> this was just one suggestion. If you have something in mind, please share it
> with us.
> >
> >Few weeks ago somebody asked a question in our Sabbath school class, and it
> went like this: "Is it possible to have the Holy Spirit and still not do
> what is the duty/mission of the Holy Spirit?" We can ask the same question
> this way. "Is it possible to be a disciple of Christ and still not follow
> where Christ leads?"
> >How can we really know whether we are disciplines or not? Or will we find
> out when we get to heaven or hell? Remember there is a difference between a
> disciple and a church member.
> >
> >He is coming!
> >
> >Jeremiah
> >
> >>>> "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@UMDNJ.EDU> 09/27 3:25 PM >>>
> >From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> >
> >Dear friends
> >
> >Few weeks we spoke about the need to reach out to professionals or the
> so-called middle class.
> >Here is my suggestion - cyber evangelism.
> >I suggest that we start a mailing list (and a web site) dedicated to
> reaching the UN-reached.
> >Instead of it been a discussion list, it will be a study/sermons list. That
> means that we will send out a sermon or a study once a week to this list.
> This will be a like church service since most of them to not attend church.
> >Every week one of our members (SA-SDA members, especially those who are
> pastors) will prepare a brief homily to send to this list.
> >
> >My request to you.
> >1. Ask your non-Adventist friends, colleagues and relatives if they will be
> interested in receiving our mails (one mail a week). Send me
> (masabatha@yahoo.com) the email addresses of those who are interested.
> >2. Send me your brief evangelistic sermons/ study materials/sermon ideas,
> in future I will request some of you to handle certain topics.
> >3. I am also looking for suggestions for the name of this new list/web site
> >4. Pray for the success of this evangelist outreach program
> >
> >Unlike SA-SDA, this will be a moderated list, only the moderators will be
> able to send out mails to this list. The recipients of the mails will have
> an opportunity to respond to the mails but the response will go to the
> moderators not to the list.
> >
> >I guess some of you have heard about cyber weddings, we will ask Pastor
> Papu to conduct cyber baptisms.
> >On a more serious note, Here is an opportunity for all us to participate in
> evangelism. Few weeks ago somebody asked a question on how we can reach our
> colleagues, here is the answer. All you need to do is to ask for the email
> addresses of those who are interested. God will do the rest.
> >If the people won't go to church, then the church must go to the people.
> >
> >I am very excited about this idea, I believe God will do miracles.
> >
> >Let's all pray for the success of this outreach plan and the outpouring of
> the Holy Spirit in the Cyber space.
> >
> >Go tell it to the mountains* that Jesus Christ is Lord!
> >
> >Jeremiah
> >
> >The King is even at the door!
> >====
> >To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
> >To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
> >To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >
> >>The King is even at the door!
> >====
> >To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
> >To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
> >To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>
> > The King is even at the door!
> ====
> To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
> To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
> To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:11:27 -0600
From: The Easton's <s.easton@xxxx.xxxx
Subject: Re: God's family = Church?
Daniel,
when did you first became a "believer"?
San
> It does not sound right to say that a new convert (or someboby who has
> been disfellowshiped) is a member of God's family and not a member of His
> church. Maybe one should ask what God's family is. Is it the church?
>
> Open My Eyes Lord that I may see.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> > The King is even at the door!
> ====
> To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
> To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
> To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:29:34 -0700
From: "Adv. Boyce Mkhize" <bhizaman@xxx.xx.xxx
Subject: Re: FW: speed kills!!
Chief, thanks for the humuor. We need to meet on Sunday as discussed to
discuss and finalise the programme as well as prepare for the NEC meeting
month-end. I think we should hold it at the TOC office, I will speak to Ps
Mitileni. I guess we are talking Saturday evening on 30 october. Charles
Church called me last night, he is desperate to assist with catering. He
has quoted R17 per person per day including preparation and serving of
meals. He indicated though that this figure may come down depending on the
facilities or equipment available at Turfloop. I think it is reasonable,
but will discuss on Sunday. I thought we could come to your place. I will
call you on Sunday morning to confirm time.
Cheers
Boyce
-----Original Message-----
From: Bangisi, Nikelo <NBangisi@anglogold.com>
To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 5:44 AM
Subject: [sa-sda] FW: speed kills!!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: belinda.bongisi@basf-s-africa.co.za
>[mailto:belinda.bongisi@basf-s-africa.co.za]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:40 PM
>To: nbangisi@corp.anglogold.com
>Subject: s
>
>
>
>
>Speed
>(See attached file: SPEED.pps)
>Enjoy the singing
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 18:51:07 +0200
From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@xxxx.xx.xxx
Subject: Re: God's family = Church?
Dan
You have raised an interesting question. I would like to think that one
can still be a member of God's family even if he is not a member of the
church. Take our children, they are not baptised, but I think they are
part of God's family, and as such we need to cater for them, nurture bring
them up in the fear of God. God has actually given us that responsibility,
they are part of the family. this would also apply to those who are not
yet baptised,but are coming to the church,learning more about God's way.
We have responsibility to them too. This can even be extended to include
those who are under discipline, they are still part of God's family, but may
not be members of the body, here by members we mean taking active part in
the building of the body(church).
I think members of God's family are those who are not willingly fighting
against the church in one way or the other. But I still see a difference
between church membership and God's family. I cannot say I am willing to
die for the opinion I have just shared.
That we may be one
Jongimpi
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Dlongolo <daniel@4gl.co.za>
To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
Cc: Thabo Mokete <smokete@fnb.co.za>; Thulani Kunene
<thulani.kunene@sasol.com>; Nkanyiso <nkanyiso@mweb.co.za>
Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 1:59 PM
Subject: [sa-sda] God's family = Church?
>From: Daniel Dlongolo <daniel@4gl.co.za>
>
>Brethren,
>
>Last week's SS lesson assured us that we are part of the family of God.
>This is good news indeed. But the question is, when does this happen?
>Does it happen immediately after repentance or only after baptism?
>I struggled to relate this lesson to baptism and church discipline.
>Is becoming a member of the church the same as being part of the family of
>God? As far as I know one is not considered a member of the church until
>he is baptised, and he will lose his membership if he is disfellowshipped.
>One brother suggested that a person automatically becomes a member of
>Christ's church when he believes.
>
>It does not sound right to say that a new convert (or someboby who has
>been disfellowshiped) is a member of God's family and not a member of His
>church. Maybe one should ask what God's family is. Is it the church?
>
>Open My Eyes Lord that I may see.
>
>Daniel
>
>
>>The King is even at the door!
>====
>To contribute to the discussions: send your mails to sa-sda@onelist.com
>To subscribe: send a blank email sa-sda-subscribe@onelist.com
>To unsubscribe: send a blank email to sa-sda-unsubscribe@onelist.com
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 08:49:53 +0200
From: "Lungani Mfeka" <MfekaL@xxxxxx.xx.xxx
Subject: Re: Cyber Evangelism
San,
I wish to respond to your last contribution concerning one's knowledge
of whether or not he will be saved. You made everything concerning
salvation too easy to me than it should be in reality. I have been of
the same oponion with Jongimpi for some time in my life and these are
the reasons:
1. The very same Jesus did mention that it is not all who say "Lord,
Lord will be saved".
2. And believing, the Bible says that believing is not enough because
even the demons believe and with trembling. The text suggests doing as
an intergral part of salvation, they both seem work hand in hand, in
this case.
3. Mrs E.G. White wrote a statement in one of her books where she says
that there are three things that will surprise those who will get to
heaven, I know you may know them as well, namely
a) That people they expected to find in heaven won't be there,
b) That people they did not expect to be in heaven will be there in
white robes, and lastly
c) That they will find themselves there.
It is c) that surprised me most - it made me think that somehow
whether or not I may think of myself as justified, undergoing
sanctification and hoping to be glorified one day - I still remain
unsure of my salvation because of the perception of myself. She also
says that the more we come to God the more sinful we will see ourselves,
and the more we see this will be the more we need and cling to Him, to
help rid us of our sin. But clinging itself does not make us feel any
holier than the day before but worse than the day before.
That is bound to make me feel uncertain of my salvation - yes I may
long to be with the Savior I have been loving for so long but I am
likely to think of our union as an impossible mission since I do not
seem to be what He wants me to be - I do not seem to qualify. Of
course, there are those who believe in different theories like that:
* one should know immediately when he is saved, which may be true to me
someday before I die, if it is true - that is, and that
* one only needs to believe in Christ as the Lord and the only Savior
then salvation is assured. This is one of the prevalent beliefs
suggesting that you don't have to do anything - just believe and you
are saved - that I don't believe, reffering to Ellen White's statement
on one's nearness with God.
San, I believe that this is a Christian dillema and is more complicated
than we may confess. But as has been mentioned before - it is only God
who knows who will be saved and I am not suggesting predestination.
Lungani
>>> "The Easton's" <s.easton@home.com> 10/07/99 07:27PM >>>
From: The Easton's <s.easton@home.com>
Jongimpi,
I have struggled with this question for many years, and I used to
believe as you do now but I have to disagree with what you have said. We
can have assurance that we are disciples of Christ. In the
bible there are numerous verses, I will list a few and if you would
like more email me privately:
Acts 16: 30-31: He brought them out and asked," Sirs, what must I do to
be saved?" They replied," Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be
saved - you and your household."
Romans 10: 9- 14: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord,"
and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, YOU WILL BE
SAVED. For it is with your heart that you believe and
are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are
saved."
Romans 10:13 : for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be
saved."
Romans 7:25 -8:3 So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's Law,
but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. Therefore there is
now no condendemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of Life set me free
from the law of sin and death.
Ephesians 2: 8-9: For it is by grace you have been saved, through FAITH
- and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by
works...
I have always been aware of these verses, but is salvation so simple?
yes
Can I believe what the Bible says and have FAITH that I am a Disciple
of God? yes. Will I always obey God? no because I am not perfect and I
will never be, but that is why Jesus died.. so he could
forgive us of all the sin that we will do. (John 3:16) and it is no
longer what we DO but if we believe. If we are not following his leading
but still are believer, than God will show us the right way
to go. Like Jonah, He outright disobeyed God.. but God didn't let him
go that easily and I think That sometimes God allows us to go our oun
way for a time so that we can realize for ourselves how
inadaquate we really are. I also believe that once you are a disciple
of God that it isn't that simple to turn away... like jonah.. and in the
end... God gently leads us back to him. We are justified
by faith.. not of works. and we can never be good enough or do enough
for God.. he has already accepted us by dying for us.. all he asks is to
love him.
Hope to hear your comments on this one!
San
Jongimpi Papu wrote:
> From: Jongimpi Papu <j.d.papu@mweb.co.za>
>
> Jerry
> You asked, "Is it possible for a person to be a disciple of Christ
and not
> follow his leading"? Let me answer your question in two ways.
>
> First of all I think it is possible for a person to say that he is
a
> disciple of Christ and yet refuse to follow him. In this case it is
not
> what a person says but what he does that is a real answer to the
question.
>
> Secondly, a person can say he is a disciple of Christ, we may believe
him,
> because of what we see him do, things like preaching, leading in the
church
> and many other good things. He may also believe that he is a
disciple of
> Christ, but Christ can have a different evaluation of the same. In
Matt.
> 7: 21-23, that seems to be the issue. The operative word here is
> deception, person who is deceived does not know that he is deceived,
we read
> that at the end many will be deceived into thinking that they are
> worshipping God only to find out that they are worshipping the beast.
In
> fact even the beast might think that he is worshipping God, for he
also is
> deceived.
>
> Who then is a disciple of Christ? Only Christ knows!!!
>
> If we love one another the whole world will know...
>
> Jongimpi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mashudu Ravhengani <ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> To: sa-sda@onelist.com <sa-sda@onelist.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [sa-sda] Cyber Evangelism
>
> >From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> >
> >Greetings,
> >
> >Apart from the few positive comments, I have not received any
response to
> this suggestion. I suppose there are many ways we can reach-out to
the lost,
> this was just one suggestion. If you have something in mind, please
share it
> with us.
> >
> >Few weeks ago somebody asked a question in our Sabbath school class,
and it
> went like this: "Is it possible to have the Holy Spirit and still not
do
> what is the duty/mission of the Holy Spirit?" We can ask the same
question
> this way. "Is it possible to be a disciple of Christ and still not
follow
> where Christ leads?"
> >How can we really know whether we are disciplines or not? Or will we
find
> out when we get to heaven or hell? Remember there is a difference
between a
> disciple and a church member.
> >
> >He is coming!
> >
> >Jeremiah
> >
> >>>> "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@UMDNJ.EDU> 09/27 3:25 PM >>>
> >From: "Mashudu Ravhengani" <Ravhenmj@umdnj.edu>
> >
> >Dear friends
> >
> >Few weeks we spoke about the need to reach out to professionals or
the
> so-called middle class.
> >Here is my suggestion - cyber evangelism.
> >I suggest that we start a mailing list (and a web site) dedicated
to
> reaching the UN-reached.
> >Instead of it been a discussion list, it will be a study/sermons
list. That
> means that we will send out a sermon or a study once a week to this
list.
> This will be a like church service since most of them to not attend
church.
> >Every week one of our members (SA-SDA members, especially those who
are
> pastors) will prepare a brief homily to send to this list.
> >
> >My request to you.
> >1. Ask your non-Adventist friends, colleagues and relatives if they
will be
> interested in receiving our mails (one mail a week). Send me
> (masabatha@yahoo.com) the email addresses of those who are
interested.
> >2. Send me your brief evangelistic sermons/ study materials/sermon
ideas,
> in future I will request some of you to handle certain topics.
> >3. I am also looking for suggestions for the name of this new
list/web site
> >4. Pray for the success of this evangelist outreach program
> >
> >Unlike SA-SDA, this will be a moderated list, only the moderators
will be
> able to send out mails to this list. The recipients of the mails will
have
> an opportunity to respond to the mails but the response will go to
the
> moderators not to the list.
> >
> >I guess some of you have heard about cyber weddings, we will ask
Pastor
> Papu to conduct cyber baptisms.
> >On a more serious note, Here is an opportunity for all us to
participate in
> evangelism. Few weeks ago somebody asked a question on how we can
reach our
> colleagues, here is the answer. All you need to do is to ask for the
email
> addresses of those who are interested. God will do the rest.
> >If the people won't go to church, then the church must go to the
people.
> >
> >I am very excited about this idea, I believe God will do miracles.
> >
> >Let's all pray for the success of this outreach plan and the
outpouring of
> the Holy Spirit in the Cyber space.
> >
> >Go tell it to the mountains* that Jesus Christ is Lord!
> >
> >Jeremiah
> >
> >The King is even at the door!
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:27:16 +0000 (GMT)
From: Daniel Dlongolo <daniel@xxx.xx.xxx
Subject: Re: God's family = Church?
On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, The Easton's wrote:
> Daniel,
> when did you first became a "believer"?
>
> San
San,
May you please expand your question or at least tell us what your point
is? I cannot relate your question to my question(s).
He will surely come.
Daniel
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